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changing date format has no effect on current timeline.

randybisig
Thu, 10 May 2018 21:50:32 GMT

Changing date format from European style (DD MMM YYYY) to American style (MM/DD/YYYY) doesn't change anything on the current timeline, even when saved & closed.

aeonjess
Fri, 11 May 2018 01:07:08 GMT

Hi, When you say that nothing changes, do you mean the date that is displayed, or the position of the event? For events that you have already entered, their dates are stored internally - changing the date format once events have been added does not change their actual date. It only effects the format that is displayed on the timeline (if you are displaying dates in the Short format) and how it recognises dates you enter from then on. When you change the date format, are you expecting the dates to move (eg. a date you wrote as 1/8/2007 in European style moving from 1st Aug 2007 to the 8th Jan 2007 on your timeline? Or is the display of dates not changing either (ie. the date display should change from 1/8/2007 to 8/1/2007)? Jess

randybisig
Fri, 11 May 2018 01:54:44 GMT

The format showing on the screen was 10 May 2018. I changed the format to MM/DD/YYYY. I expect the date to change to 05/10/2018. It didn’t. It remained as 10 May 2018. I’ll send snaps and video of that also.

aeonjess
Fri, 11 May 2018 02:25:31 GMT

Hi, There are two different places that refer to date format, and they refer to slightly different things. If you are accessing the Preferred Date Format from the Options/Preferences menu, this refers to specifically the date order that you use. It has options such as mm/dd/yyyy, dd/mm/yyyy, and yyyy-mm-dd. It is used so that the program will know what you mean when you enter a date such as 1/5/12. However this only changes the date displayed if you are already configured to display this shortened format. In Timeline Settings (the cog icon) there is an option called "Date Formatting" which is specifically about how the date is displayed on the timeline. This gives you options to show your dates in Short Form (eg. 2/8/4), Medium Form (2 Aug 4) or Long Form (2 August 4) If you wish the way that the date is displayed to change on the timeline, you should select Short Form from this menu, and the dates should change on your timeline. Jess

stevenmonrad
Mon, 27 Aug 2018 23:45:30 GMT

Please clarify date format selections. Are they different depending upon which template is selected? aeonjess 10May post cites two locations - gear selections in timeline settings, which only has three choices and the Options/Preferences menu which allows more choices, including the one we MUST use, Sortable yyyy-mm-dd. Choosing within the latter menu has no effect on the timeline. Short question - how to select yyyy-mm-dd for all entries? Related, starting a new timeline and making selections in 'gear' timeline settings does not seem to 'stay', i.e. is reset each reopen of menu, date format does not change upon selection in this menu either. Is there some required order of making these settings? Thanks

aeonjess
Tue, 28 Aug 2018 02:12:07 GMT

Hi, The setting in Options/Preferences is to do with the date order. This is used so that the program knows what order you mean when you type a date such as 1/3/5 - whether this is the 3rd Jan 5, or 1st Mar 5, or 5th March 1 etc. The setting in Timeline Settings is to do with how you want dates displayed on the timeline (Short, Medium or Long). Short form displays the dates in a numerical only way - eg a number for the day/month/year It displays it in the order you have picked in Options/Preferences Medium displays the short name for your month (eg Jan) Long form displays the long name for the your month (eg January) So in your case, you should select Sortable yyyy-mm-dd from the Options/Preferences window and the Short form from the Timeline Settings window. In the case of the date format resetting, this is an issue that we believe we have fixed in the latest update, are you able to tell us what version of Aeon Timeline you are using? Jess

randybisig
Tue, 28 Aug 2018 11:57:11 GMT

Being raised in Missouri, I am more familiar with the format of August 28, 2018 versus the 28 August, 2018 that Aeon uses. This was my request.

randybisig
Tue, 28 Aug 2018 12:04:16 GMT

Changing the setting in Aeon Timeline Preferences changes nothing. I changed Preferred Date Format to Month before day. The date shown remained day month year. Part of the reason for asking also applies to Excel. When I send to Excel to make some fast global changes, I have to mess around to make Excel realize the date is a date. Then have to put it back to get Aeon to recognize it. [Screenshot 2018-08-28 07](//muut.com/u/aeontimeline/s3/:aeontimeline:Q7SM:screenshot2018082807.03.52.png.jpg)

stevenmonrad
Tue, 28 Aug 2018 16:46:03 GMT

aeonjess, thanks for being accessible and prompt.

randybisig
Tue, 28 Aug 2018 17:06:03 GMT

Version 2.3.9 (2.3.9)

stevenmonrad
Tue, 28 Aug 2018 17:29:51 GMT

Just trying the program for scheduling work, events and travel all in multiple continents. Have not gotten beyond entering a date. As the Aeon preference nomenclature says, sortable is yyyy-mm-dd. First question is how to display and export that format? Are the available formats dependent on a Windows setting? It sounds like the preferences setting only makes the program recognize it for display in 'short' format but does not in fact display or export in sortable format. Without going into the reasons for the format in our engineering/multi-zone/multi-convention world we can't use a program which does not format, display and export date fields in that sortable format. That's the ambiguity issue. The other issue is basic sortability. We name/rename any file, lable, tag or object with a leading yyyy-mm-dd (and often adding hh-mm-ss for time) simply because any software will sort by order or reverse order of occurrence as well as provide time/version/legal reference. We did not invent this. It is a standard in the engineering world (-wide) and any digital time 'stamping' within the data processing world. Here is a similar and apparently unanswered question re Scrivener/Aeon Timeline https://www.literatureandlatte.com/web/forum/viewtopic.php?t=50107 Second question - changing the values in the menu which appears upon New Timeline or 'gear' settings does not 'stick', that is, reopening the menu at any time always shows the defaults.

aeonjess
Wed, 29 Aug 2018 00:41:37 GMT

stevenmonrad - If you want to display dates in sortable yyyy-mm-dd format, then you should set both the Preferred Date Format to Sortable (yyyy-mm-dd) in the Options/Preferences window and the Date Formatting to Short(5/7/1993) in Timeline Settings. Are you able to tell me what version you are using of Aeon Timeline? We believe we have fixed the problem where the date formatting wouldn't stick in the latest version, so if you update to the latest version you shouldn't see this error anymore. If you wish to export to csv with a sortable date format, when you choose to export the data it gives you options you can choose from, one of which is the sortable format. When you choose this option, you can then export to csv file with this date format. randybisig - Unfortunately the date order in preferences only applies to the short form of dates (where the year, month and day are all represented by numbers). Aeon Timeline at the moment does not have the ability to d isplay dates in the format August 28, 2018, only in 08/28/2018. I assume you are exporting to csv which you are using with Excel? What are your dates being exported as that Excel has trouble reading as a date? Jess